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Lifetime of goodwill I believe the quote is. The OP is right on that too. I don’t know how old you are, but there’s a certain generation that allocates Nintendo an exceptional personal worth and views them as an exceptional company, due to the long standing memories that are associated with their products. Mainly the NES/Super NES era, but they had a few waves. It’s not really brainwashing, it’s literally like 20 or so years of memories with products that were key during crucial moments of our lives. So yeah, it’s a bit hard to reconcile that with the way they are acting in our modern age, honestly.


It’s dumb as shit from a business perspective. Get em hooked on it, and it’ll eventually get them buying it through a legit avenue. Emulations hardly perfected in most cases, and a legit product these days isn’t always procured at first point of touch. People would like to know if that $100 purchase you are asking of them is actually worth it, because quite a lot of the time in our modern age, it’s not.


I get what you are saying, I’m not discounting it whatsoever. I mean I’m an accountant, I could talk all day and night about ways to maximize and protect your profits and cash flows.

That said, Nintendo has to be the laziest company from a coding perspective. Their stuff is always the first of the current gens to get jailbroken, and then it’s open season. I think we should have learned by now not to fight piracy like this either, because it’s both inevitable and it’s a terrible look. The smarter companies know how to use it to their advantage. They also don’t always go thermonuclear on their perspective clientele. It’s a rotten look. Make a product that people want to buy and they’ll buy it. If you make shovelware and then price it in the AAAA tiers, I think we all know what’s going to happen…



Pennies on today’s dollar. When I was looking at doing it in 2023, it was still pretty expensive. The ram was about twice the price, plus you’d need a motherboard upgrade. Juice just wasn’t worth the squeeze. I get that stuff like this can be 10 or 20% more efficient or whatever, but then you consider on the other hand that quite a lot of games get released in a trash alpha state where it’s CPU (edit meant to say GPU) bound, or your NVME hard drive isn’t operating at peak state, or something stupid like that. Stuff you never really think about.

If I could rewind, I’d maybe would have done it just to stay ahead of the need to upgrade down the road. I’m hoping to skip the AM5 generation, if I ever build another PC, big if (I’m getting kinda old, don’t game as much anymore).


Yeah and about a 400% increase in weight loss to my wallet.

I’m good with the 20% reduction, if that’s the cost.


I probably would have too, but back when I did it AM5 stuff was pretty steep and the value/dollar was still a bit hazy. I’m still not really quite sure what the real AM5 advantage over AM4 for the common person is, especially at the prices today. I mean obviously it’s better and newer and whatever, but is it really that necessary?


I did a 5800x3d/4070ti/128gb AM4 refresh three years ago, and honestly the thing still absolutely cooks. I’m not even sure why you would ever need more. Maybe if you game in 4k, or bragging rights or something. I’m more than content with the 1440p plebes though.


I think game designers and studios have to realize that there is a big market they arent serving as much. I’m not a basement dwelling teenager anymore, I’m in my 40s, I’ve got basically no time, I can’t spend 100 hours locked in on something anymore. Take Kingdom Come Deliverance II for instance, like it’s clearly a banger of a game, but I was like 15 hours in and it still hasn’t really started. I just don’t have the attention span for that kind of stuff anymore. I guess I’m desiring more casual like gaming.


Wholeheartedly agree. Games these past few years have been big letdowns for the most part. There’s been a couple exceptions, but for the most part it’s been disappointing.


I never played the third birthday one either. Number two is great, but it goes from like challenging to next level nightmare impossible right at the end.


I’ve got KCD2, and I mean it’s awesome, but the prologue drags on my god. I just got the darn thing finally started and I was bored of it. I’ll pick it back up at some point. It’s great, it just needs a special kind of attention and dedication that I’m not sure I totally have.


Carmageddon Max Damage. I used to live for the original Carmageddon, back when I was in high school. Between me and my old man, we annihilated that game and all the add on packs. This version is a pleasant return to a simpler time, but it’s a nice shake up of the classic too, it’s actually a bit challenging. I’m really enjoying it, about 55% done. I pick away at it here and there, and have been doing that this week. Probably going to replay Modern Warfare 2 (the 2009 version) on the weekend, as I just finished Modern Warfare 1 last weekend.


7 with VR was phenomenal. It’s not quite the same as the 1-4 series though, like it was almost a different universe. I never played its sequel, but I heard it was good.


Parasite eve 1 or 2? I don’t think I ever got past the final boss in 2, buddy was impossible


I’ve got a $50 game boy wanna-be clone that I bought on Amazon on my bedside table, thing runs PS1 games smoothly. It ain’t quite the same obviously, but it just about scratches the same itch (plus it’s portable, I’ve enjoyed playing it on the train to and from work for example).


I just struggle to be…into it anymore.

After the whole COVID thing, after all this other crap, now the ram, like I’m just not into this scarcity thing anymore. A lot of the games suck, everything’s released pre-alpha, all this pre buy hype and then the delays just to build more hype.

I dunno, call me jaded, but I’m just kind of over it, and I’m struggling to enjoy these newer games as much. I mean dont get me wrong, I love games still, I love computers and tech still (obviously), but I’ve as of late have discovered that I’ve missed so much over the past decade or so. I’ve been having a hoot playing older stuff, and it’s so much more enjoyable. Hence I’m not really caught in the hype as much anymore. My last build is about to hit 2 years old, and honestly it’s probably riding the decade out at this point, if not even longer.


I hate GTA online. Actually I have to admit I still don’t understand the appeal of online gaming, it has never scratched the itch for me.

I’ll play GTA 6, but I’m going to keep my expectations in check. I also agree, GTA IV was thus far the pentultimate. I really like RDR2 as well, both are definitely in my top 5.


Well the games for sure haven’t for the most part gotten any better. Maybe with the exception of the Rockstar games, like I totally get all the hate, but their games are also always next level.

And the dial up days lol. My dad wisely and thankfully got a second phone line.

Also I remember those underpowered computer days too lol. We got a 200 Pentium MMX the spring of 97, and that thing was cutting edge at first, but it quickly got pretty dated, like even around 2000 it was starting to struggle with some of the newer stuff. The old man insisted on riding it into the mid aughts. I was long and away at school and afterwards, with my own computers by then, but he rode that thing into the ground, and oh boy was it crawling at the end. We’d come home from school, where we had like wide open broadband, and have to suffer through Christmas break at dial up speeds lol.


8-tracks and 45s. I even remember early day modems where you actually had to pick up a landline, dial the number and then place the receiver in a specially built cradle that used analogue noise to communicate. My first computer was a Commodore VIC-20 that used cassette tapes to save data.

Best days of life if you ask me. Well actually maybe the mid to later 90s, when the Internet first started coming home for everyone. Watching live concerts and Napster and all of that. Instant messaging people, and being able to download every Nintendo game in existence, on demand. When computer games went from here to THERE, like Carmaggedon and games like that. Those were the magic days. When I discovered Napster I think we legit skipped school for almost the entire week.

Thanks for a trip through the memories!


I’m old enough I can remember operating an 8-track deck in my dad’s truck. Didn’t have GPS accessible until oh geez, probably my later 20s? My kids are very young, so they only know the touchscreen world.

I don’t think there’s any going back. If we had to, like if there was a bad event or whatever, I’d like to think we could all eventually adapt, but it would be rough for sure. A lot of people wouldn’t make it.



If they only still made them like Bowie…

I agree with everything that you’ve said, it’s sad and pathetic, but we’ve invited the monster inside. The calls are coming from inside the house now.


I honestly don’t think I’ve ever been on a steam forum.

This shits generally everywhere nowadays, there’s no hiding from it. It’s like a worldwide pandemic of brain rot at this point. Everyone is polarized, and that’s never going to lead to anything good. I’m still not sure we should all be this connected to each other.

Social media in moderation and with responsibility and rational thought, there’s nothing wrong with that. But people don’t seem to be able to self police themselves, it’s turned into a massive addiction that’s maybe somehow just as bad as the opioid crisis in some ways. It’s infection has circled the globe, turning a lot of otherwise decent people into mindless meme chodes and racism repeaters.


Can’t speak for you, but I’m still playing both pretty regularly. I still play GTA IV quite a bit too, and return to San Andreas often enough. Vice city is still a classic, but those older ones are just getting a bit janky, which is ok considering they are 20+ years old. All of these games were ahead of their time.

Definitely sets the bar pretty high, maybe impossibly high, for GTA 6


Say what you will about Rockstar, but they make games that 20 years later you still want to return to them (I guess just about 8 years later in this case).


It’s really slow for about 1/3 of the way through, and then you get to Saint Denis and it starts taking off a lot harder.

It’s a masterpiece, but definitely a slow burn. It’s a top 3 game for me for sure.


It’s the next stage of corporate capitalism. It’s actually been underway for the past 20-30 years. We’ve seen the rise of the class of corporate overlords, none of whom could actually do the jobs beneath them, and add value of dubious quantity and quality. They take their MBAs and leveraged debt, and hack and chop, leaving a trail of chaos and dysfunctional broken companies behind them.

AI is just the next phase of this, and is going to be an economic destroyer, not value creator. Nobody seems to care that it can’t actually really do much useful, let alone replace people in their jobs. This seems completely lost to all of these corporate dweebs though, because again, none of them could actually do any of the jobs beneath them when the chips fall.

What AI could maybe replace though, is the executive lair of most companies. It’s not like neither add any fucking value, actually having AI in an executive role would probably lead to value creation, as everyone else could just largely ignore it unless it was useful.

What a world we live in.


Broderbund is right up there with top tier game makers, their games may be largely relegated to the history books now, but for all the right reasons. You didn’t even have to be a big video gamer, to appreciate one for their products (think Carmen Sandiego or Sim City). They definitely had an outsized impact on the industry, and I think we’d all be in a better place today if companies like them were allowed to thrive. Instead we get private equity, beta tier releases and preordering. Not to even mention all these stupid remake$


How is this a patient gamer, didn’t this game just come out literally this week?


The Horizons are just literally too much, they are overwhelming. Yet at the same time, they start to feel repetitive, like there will be a few good speed challenges or a handful of races that are enjoyable. Other than that, there’s so much, yet it feels so dead.

Forza Motorsports, the latest iteration was straight up trash. The online multiplayer has been wrecked by people that just outright cheat, like it’s so bad it’s blatantly obvious. You have no way of winning if you aren’t cheating, and most likely will end up in a pileup somewhere in the back because no one can drive. The story mode has been wrecked by a progression system that just literally makes no sense. It’s arguably a fairly attractive game to look at, but totally empty inside.



I’m not a big believer in customer shaming. This shifts the blame from the root cause.


This last iteration of Forza was awful. If that’s how it was going to be for this franchise going forward, good riddance. I’m sorry for the human impact this has though, that parts not lost on me. But the product was complete shit. Leaves a cavern sized hole in the market now. Forza has had a monster sized impact on the genre. That cannot be ignored.



So is AMD with their availability of literally three video cards in stock for all of North America at launch. Which in turn just fuels the scalpers. Downvote this all you want guys, AMD is just as complicit in all of this, they’ve fuelled this bullshit just as much.


If you could happen to fall into a 5800x or a 5800x3d for a decent price (getting harder to find I’m sure), I’d skip the upgrades and AM5. It doesn’t look like it’s going to go the distance like AM4 did, there’s already AM6 talk going on for 2027. There’s very little real world actual advantage to AM5 vs 4, it’s just largely more anti-consumer behaviour and marketing from PC chipmakers.


Maybe to their inventory department too, because let’s be frank, that’s what AMDs downfall really will be. Every product launch for them is now a faux launch, because no one can get their hands on the hardware. It’s not quite as bad for the processors, but their GPUs? Forgeddaboutit.


That last one is especially horrifying. You don’t own games when you cloud game, you simply lease them. We all know what that’s done for the preservation of games. Not to mention encouraging the massive amounts of shovel ware that we get flooded with.