DuckDuckGo CEO says Google kills competition through phone deals that make it hard for users to switch search engines: ‘It’s too many steps’
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The federal government argues Google has smothered competition by paying companies such as Apple and Verizon to lock in its search engine as the default.
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afaik they use multiple, including bing and their own indexer (duckduckbot afaik)

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It might be a myth, but it would probably be the best search engine.

Bing is too good, they’re trying to capture market share and likely operating it at a loss. But if people leave Google, it’s most likely because they dont want tracked. And Microsoft is probably at best just as bad as Google.

A go between that anonimizes the results would be exactly what people want.

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Bing is too good,

You mean that they just don’t frontload ads on results?

Their own CEO admits they are required to allow Microsoft tracking in their “privacy” browser due to the contract for search. They use Bing for search, it’s not a myth.

For non-search tracker blocking (eg in our browser), we block most third-party trackers. Unfortunately our Microsoft search syndication agreement prevents us from doing more to Microsoft-owned properties. However, we have been continually pushing and expect to be doing more soon.

— Gabriel Weinberg (@yegg) May 23, 2022

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/duckduckgo-browser-allows-microsoft-trackers-due-to-search-agreement/

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This is no longer the case as of August last year, they managed to get the terms of the agreement changed https://www.pcworld.com/article/828064/duckduckgo-will-now-block-microsoft-trackers-too.html

Edit: Duckduckgo’s statement on it https://spreadprivacy.com/more-privacy-and-transparency/

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They still have the disclaimer on the app in the pay store. It was added after they were called out.

The fact that they hid it in the first place is disqualifying for a privacy focused product.

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Oh definitely, I’m a bit hesitant about them because of things like that, I just consider them as an “it’s at least better than Google” kind of thing

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Yeah, I agree with that. I would never use their browser or other products but their search fits the “at least it’s not google/MS”.

I even think what the CEO is saying is correct here, Google is doing it’s best kill competition.

They literally state this themselves, it’s not a myth.

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Of course, we have more traditional links and images in our search results too, which we largely source from Bing.

https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/

So I wasn’t totally right in that it doesn’t all come from Bing, but it largely does.

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