Wow thank you for this comment. It helps detail your level of knowledge on this subject, which is very helpful to myself and others. There is nothing else to discuss here on my end.
Alrighty, so generative AI works by giving it training data and it transforms that data and then generates something based on a prompt and how that prompt is related to the training data it has.
That’s not functionally different from how commissioned human artists work. They train on publicly available works, their brain transforms and stores that data and uses it to generate a work based on a prompt. They even often directly use a reference work to generate their own without permission from the original artist.
Like I said, there are tons of valid criticisms against Gen AI, but this criticism just boils down to “AI bad because it’s not a human exploiting other’s work.”
And all of this is ignoring the fact that ethically trained Gen AI models exist.
It does not think, it is not capable of creating novel new works, and it is incapable of the emotion necessary to be expressive.
All it can do is ingest content and replicate it. This is not the same as a human seeing someone’s work and being inspired by it to create something uniquely their own in response.
I never claimed that Gen AI has consciousness, or that what they produce has emotions behind it, so I’m not sure why you’re focusing on that.
I’m specifically talking about the argument that AI is bad because trains on copyrighted material without consent from the artist, which is functionally no different than humans doing the exact same thing.
This isn’t me defending AI, this is me saying this one specific argument against it is stupid. Because even if artificial consciousness was a thing, it would still have to be trained on the same data.
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Wow thank you for this comment. It helps detail your level of knowledge on this subject, which is very helpful to myself and others. There is nothing else to discuss here on my end.
Alrighty, so generative AI works by giving it training data and it transforms that data and then generates something based on a prompt and how that prompt is related to the training data it has.
That’s not functionally different from how commissioned human artists work. They train on publicly available works, their brain transforms and stores that data and uses it to generate a work based on a prompt. They even often directly use a reference work to generate their own without permission from the original artist.
Like I said, there are tons of valid criticisms against Gen AI, but this criticism just boils down to “AI bad because it’s not a human exploiting other’s work.”
And all of this is ignoring the fact that ethically trained Gen AI models exist.
GenAI is a glorified Markov Chain. Nothing more.
It is a stochastic parrot.
It does not think, it is not capable of creating novel new works, and it is incapable of the emotion necessary to be expressive.
All it can do is ingest content and replicate it. This is not the same as a human seeing someone’s work and being inspired by it to create something uniquely their own in response.
I never claimed that Gen AI has consciousness, or that what they produce has emotions behind it, so I’m not sure why you’re focusing on that.
I’m specifically talking about the argument that AI is bad because trains on copyrighted material without consent from the artist, which is functionally no different than humans doing the exact same thing.
This isn’t me defending AI, this is me saying this one specific argument against it is stupid. Because even if artificial consciousness was a thing, it would still have to be trained on the same data.
My entire post was a rebuttal of the “functionally no different than humans doing the same thing”.
Humans take inspiration and use it to express themselves uniquely, genAI just steals and replicates. They are in no way “doing the exact same thing”.
So your entire argument is semantics.
Gen AI does more than just replicating existing works. You’re not going to get the same result with the same prompt; each result will be unique.
And I’d argue that the person writing the prompt is the one providing the inspiration to get the software to express what’s in their head.