Only if you have installed MS Office, it was one of the first thing which I deleted, among with other MS Bloatware and services “to improve the user experience”. A clean Windows is a difference like day and night with the defauly one, in speed, stability and RAM usage. The specs of my modded Windows11 24H2 (Acer laptop)
Not sure what you want to show with that screenshot. It tells you that 700 MB of your installed RAM is reserved for your integrated GPU which doesn’t really have to do anything with Windows.
True, but whenever Windows is having a mini-meltdown the NMI from the three finger salute is often enough to jar it out of its fixation. Plus my computer has learnt that if I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del 30 times the next time is the big red switch.
They will do this but then what option will they have left when they make it even more bloated and slow—since they now have this “extra room”, as it were?
There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it’s still there, it’s been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn’t refresh, window controls didn’t work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.
Nonsense, Excel is extremely bad at analyzing and visualizing data. The whole point of Excel is ease of use, cell reference, etc. Now make 10 graphs with different ranges, different axis ranges, etc. good luck. It is a whole lot of useless clicking, with open tabs like axis ranges of course always resetting to the line formatting. It is exactly like it was 20 years ago with zero improvement. You can still NOT simply input a cell with a value into the axis range to make it automatic.
Wait is the stupid lag in Word because it’s running on Electron now??? That explains so much.
Edit: after a little bit of searching, it looks like it just loads webview2 to avoid having to load it if you open any of the add-in search panels. So the lagginess of new word is just inexcusable.
Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it’s time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds… Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.
I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.
The same with the incredibly powerful CPUs and huge amounts of RAM we all have now. These are little supercomputers, and everything in Windows takes longer than it did 25 years ago on machines with a tiny fraction of the power.
This trend is not limited to windows. Try to open a notepad or a calculator on any modern linux distro. 3-5 seconds. And it’s getting worse with snaps and flatpacks.
It’s true, but the effect is still much less pronounced on Linux than Windows. Opening a web browser, for instance, is usually a lot faster in Linux than opening the same browser in Windows.
Part of the problem is everyone building on common libraries that themselves build on libraries, leading to layer after layer of abstraction with a little loss of efficiency at each one. Since most software is cross-platform, this affects multiple operating systems. And needing to build for multiple platforms is itself one of the drivers of all this abstraction.
Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you’re waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.
Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It’s so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer “Cancelling…”.
It’s a maintenance process which preloads essential office files into memory for usage when you launch the different Microsoft applications so their startup time is reduced as well.
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Only if you have installed MS Office, it was one of the first thing which I deleted, among with other MS Bloatware and services “to improve the user experience”. A clean Windows is a difference like day and night with the defauly one, in speed, stability and RAM usage. The specs of my modded Windows11 24H2 (Acer laptop)
Not sure what you want to show with that screenshot. It tells you that 700 MB of your installed RAM is reserved for your integrated GPU which doesn’t really have to do anything with Windows.
How’d you go about this? Currently forced to use windows.
CTRL-ALT-DELETE - Task Manager - Click the little fuel gauge on the left hand side to access and disable startup items.
Copilot? Disabled.
Microsoft 365 Copilot? Disabled.
Teams? Disabled.
Microsoft To Do? Disabled.
OneDrive? Disabled.
Phone Link? Disabled.
Xbox? Disabled.
Just add one more to the list…
Ctrl-shift-esc opens task manager directly.
True, but whenever Windows is having a mini-meltdown the NMI from the three finger salute is often enough to jar it out of its fixation. Plus my computer has learnt that if I hit Ctrl-Alt-Del 30 times the next time is the big red switch.
The direct shortcut for opening task manager actually also had special handling for problematic situations. This includes low memory and high CPU.
I’ve had situations where the direct shortcut worked, but ctrl-alt-delete didn’t. Never had the opposite.
Didn’t they start doing that decades ago? Did they stop at some point?
it’s been a long time but i vaguely remember an office tray icon or desktop toolbar or something that could run all the time.
nowadays, windows caching and prefetch should be more than enough… and that’s not even considering the fast ssd we have now, either.
They will do this but then what option will they have left when they make it even more bloated and slow—since they now have this “extra room”, as it were?
They’ll move office straight into the window kernel.
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There used to be a bug in ms word (idk if it’s still there, it’s been years since I last used any ms office app) where, if you had a separate printing server connected to a printer, and the printer was off but the server was online, it would try to fetch printer features, resulting in an unanswered request that would end up timing out. For some reason, word would completely freeze until the request timed out at 30s. No input worked, screen didn’t refresh, window controls didn’t work either. Completely frozen. And the worst part was that word would try to fetch printer features every time you clicked completely unrelated buttons. Want to export to PDF? Frozen for 30s. Want to save your document with a different name? First wait for 30s. Oh, you want to change the page size? You guessed it, 30s frozen.
Microsoft:
Install Linux. Use OpenOffice. Problem solved.
Libreoffice, OpenOffice was abandoned when oracle bought it
You’re right. Sorry, my age is showing showing. LOL
LibeOffice, OnlyOffice, all great apps
afaik onlyoffice has financial connections to russia, fyi
libreoffice. which has also had a similar feature for years.
Why are people using word processors at all ? They’re only used to print letters on paper.
Don’t use OpenOffice, it’s nearly unmaintained, use LibreOffice
All of this while Excel is still stuck in 1997 in terms of functionality.
So are bicycles. They do a thing and they do it well.
Nonsense, Excel is extremely bad at analyzing and visualizing data. The whole point of Excel is ease of use, cell reference, etc. Now make 10 graphs with different ranges, different axis ranges, etc. good luck. It is a whole lot of useless clicking, with open tabs like axis ranges of course always resetting to the line formatting. It is exactly like it was 20 years ago with zero improvement. You can still NOT simply input a cell with a value into the axis range to make it automatic.
shrugs in linux
Articles like this and the fact they’re still trying to get recall back was reason enough for me to switch again.
Obligatory
Its horrendous, my work windows laptop the amount of crap just loading at startup is getting stupid.
“Nah man you just need a little more AI bullshit crammed into all your apps.” -Microsoft, probably
They also make Edge launch at startup, it also never really closes when you “close” it.
Thats because of office I believe, since its using edge underneath.
Ah, the edgewebview2 crash. So consistent, so destructive.
This is why I’m glad I mostly just use it for teams, everything else is pretty much ssh from my main workstation (debian).
Wait is the stupid lag in Word because it’s running on Electron now??? That explains so much.
Edit: after a little bit of searching, it looks like it just loads webview2 to avoid having to load it if you open any of the add-in search panels. So the lagginess of new word is just inexcusable.
that bit you can turn off in edge settings… but the webview engine stays because of widgets and probably some other bullshit.
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Ive got 16gb in the work-provided machine… And I can safely say that more than half is just autostart crap.
Since I only use it for messaging/email, I don’t much care tbh. Just kind of a fun to note for the laughs though.
Most of my coworkers never turn their machine off, but I appreciate windows taking it’s time. Warming up the work laptop in the morning is like a ceremony at this point. Solid 10-15 minutes to grab coffee, have a chat, check the feeds… Lol I wonder how much time/productivity is collectively wasted across the country from this crap.
Yeah, straight back 15-20 years ☕😋
I remember my morning routine around 2007-2008 in college before Linux was usable enough for me was turn on laptop, make coffee and have breakfast. Once the clickety clack stopped, check email or something. If it was still clacking away, get ready to head to university and it would have to wait. While I had XP on that thing it did not leave the house unless I was planning to hit the library to write a paper or something that would take more than an hour. It was not worth it to go through the startup procedure between classes. I needed the charger wherever I took it because 20% was lost to either starting up or traveling while on.
The invention of ssds was not to speed up computers, but to allow us to have more unwanted stuff autostart.
and to install ‘mandatory’ giant bloated updates faster…
and to reboot faster after crashes (which may or may not have been caused by the above updates)…
The same with the incredibly powerful CPUs and huge amounts of RAM we all have now. These are little supercomputers, and everything in Windows takes longer than it did 25 years ago on machines with a tiny fraction of the power.
This trend is not limited to windows. Try to open a notepad or a calculator on any modern linux distro. 3-5 seconds. And it’s getting worse with snaps and flatpacks.
It’s true, but the effect is still much less pronounced on Linux than Windows. Opening a web browser, for instance, is usually a lot faster in Linux than opening the same browser in Windows.
Part of the problem is everyone building on common libraries that themselves build on libraries, leading to layer after layer of abstraction with a little loss of efficiency at each one. Since most software is cross-platform, this affects multiple operating systems. And needing to build for multiple platforms is itself one of the drivers of all this abstraction.
Including all the analytics gathering windows has to run on startup. What a pain.
Oh definitely. Its shut down every day, has a dedicated dock in the home office, and I open it at 9am.
Thats when I get my coffee and snack. Its just surprising how much longer I can sit and sip before starting now.
when i set up a new pc i warn the users moving from really old ones that their coffee-fetching and bagel toasting time is about to shrink to zero.
Every time you want a break just relax and if the boss shows up just restart your computer. Tell them you’re waiting for the system to boot after it froze or installed an update.
They shouldn’t have made it so bloated then. The 2003 version opened fairly quickly, even on a late 90’s computer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirth's_law
Moore gives. Billiam takes.
The fuck? LibreOffice/any office suite in a browser is better than this.
I’m forced to use Windows due to work and damn is it slow. File explorer feels so sluggish compared to Dolphin
Agree, especially switching between tabs is sooooooo slow
Obligatory Windows is trash and f those guys. Something about Dolphin turns me off tho. Thinking about exploring new file explorers.
I can’t seem to find a view I like in Dolphin. Everything I try I still end up with these two columns when I’d rather have one compact list.
Yep, it’s quickly becoming absolute garbage, I hate it more every day. Getting home back on Linux feels so much better.
Deleting files and folders in Windows is the one that gets me. It’s so incredibly slow, and if you try to cancel it manages to take even longer “Cancelling…”.
OfficeClickToRun.exeis years and years old. This isn’t a new thing at all.that’s the c2r maintenance process. main job is to set up and update the local files for office.
It’s a maintenance process which preloads essential office files into memory for usage when you launch the different Microsoft applications so their startup time is reduced as well.