Considering it’s cheaper than our equal to a gfx card, frugal me cannot convince myself to build another gaming pc. My 2080 ti will retire and my steam deck will be all i have.
Valve has revealed that Steam Deck players accumulated 330 million hours of gameplay during 2024, representing a remarkable 64% increase compared to the previous year.
That’s the equivalent of every Switch owner playing two hours in the entire year. Nintendo doesn’t share their usage numbers in aggregate, but they do provide a “year in review” thing per user and most of the ones I see online are in the three digit range. Even assuming a bunch of people aren’t using these at all, we’re looking one to two orders of magnitude larger than the Steam Deck, which checks out with what we know about the total numbers sold for each device.
Which is to say, the Deck is probably as popular as, say, a Sega Game Gear or a Sega Saturn but nowhere near any of the modern consoles yet.
That’s over 8 years of Switch owners. Use the same growth curve on the SteamDeck forecasting out 7 years from now to make your assessment more accurate.
Some further perspectives:
Many Switch owners have more than one due to the release cycle and special versions
If you segment the Switch into the number of consoles sold during the first year, this gap would be nowhere near as large.
@[email protected] is spot on. This data is about potential and growth, not the past.
I think the difference here is that the market for the the Switch is known but the market that Valve created for Handheld PC Gaming isn’t and it’s proving be far larger than expected. It’s completely possible that the market for PC Gaming handhelds is just as big as for the Switch.
There is also lot of unexplored territory for Valve with the Steam Deck including games written specifically for Linux, docks that would let you use more powerful hardware when you want to play on a big screen, and crazily enough docks for using the Deck as an actual computer. (There’s already docks that turn your smartphone into a laptop, no reason that can’t be done with a Deck).
Nintendo created something kind of new with the Switch but it only works with the Nintendo ecosystem. Valve took their idea and is making it work in the PC ecosystem which is ultimately much larger.
It really good for people who don’t have, or want, a gaming pc. It gives them the small footprint of a handheld, without being locked to a console platform.
It’s such a great way to play CloneHero, ReTHAWed, and emulators in the livingroom. The Switch really nailed the portable to docked mindset, but steam deck brought the real capabilities
Please forgive the naive (stupid) question. Does the steam deck allow emulator to play games that don’t normally run on emulators? I’ve been trying to play Blitz The League 2 for soooo long
Not a stupid question at all :) the steam deck can emulate games a mid-spec modern gaming computer can handle, I’ve had good performance with up to PS2 titles, but I have never tried PS3 or Xbox 360.
I think Emudeck includes RPCS3, a PS3 emulator. It could be worth trying, for sure, but I’d expect it to stutter a bit :)
if it doesn’t run in RPCS3 on a computer the steam deck won’t be any different, it’s essentially just a gaming PC that boots into big picture mode after all :)
I’m looking forward to the Legion Go S because at least that’s a lot more likely to be sold officially in my country than the Steam Deck will. Also I think that more choice for officially supported Steam OS devices is on a whole good for consumers.
Not to undercut it, but the steam deck shows triple the actual game time for some of my games, as it probably counted the time the device was asleep with a game running, due to some glitch.
So, it usually does. But I went to check again. It had me for 63 hours of Baldur’s Gate 3 which I remembered was very off. I launched the game to check the in-game count : 19 hours.
I exited the game, and lo and behold, Steam now says 16.8 hours.
Yeah if I remember right I needed to launch it once after this was so inflated and then it went back after syncing.
I mean it’s okay as long as a sane number gets out.
If you dont care about high settings at high resolutions in AAA games, then its absolutely the best gaming option out there.
I do say people should be willing to tinker with the software if they want to get some more obscure, abandoned or emulated titles working though, thats the only caveat.
Have they said that recently? The only definitive comment I remember from them was something along the lines “definitely not in the next 2-3 years” around launch, which was 3 years ago.
Not saying that means I “expect” it’s happening, just curious if you know of anything more recent that says its not happening.
When AMD was talking about RDNA4 one or two months ago, there were rumors that it would be for the new Steam Deck, and Valve claimed that it wasn’t, and that it was still a long way out.
“So we really do want to wait for a generational leap in compute without sacrificing battery life before we ship the real second generation of Steam Deck. But it is something that we’re excited about and we’re working on.”
As of October 2024, this would suggest we hadn’t yet had that “generational leap” at the time of writing.
If this is tracked just by game playtime, then this is underselling it too. Sunshine/Moonlight alone would probably add a substantial amount of time to this count.
That’s where I’m having trouble justifying it. I don’t really care for or do any handheld gaming, and if I was gonna leave it docked, why not just use my PC? If I want it on my TV I still have a Steam Link too. Glad to see it’s being shown as a viable platform, I just haven’t found a use case for it in my world.
That’s a good assessment. I originally got it because I was moving overseas and traveling a lot. It is fun on a plane and when I stay up at my parents for Christmas for a few days etc. considered it for a mobile music studio, but a laptop is superior. In your case I wouldn’t get it though.
Its one of the joys of the device, isn’t it? I know my friend uses hers as a permanently docked desktop device, basically a cheap way for her to get into desktop PC gaming. I use mine as a handheld device but I have a second one that I got my family to use as a gaming device in the living room. 3 totally different use cases supported delightfully by 1 device.
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Who knew Valve could make a console so good it converts PC gamers.
Considering it’s cheaper than our equal to a gfx card, frugal me cannot convince myself to build another gaming pc. My 2080 ti will retire and my steam deck will be all i have.
To put this in perspective:
That’s the equivalent of every Switch owner playing two hours in the entire year. Nintendo doesn’t share their usage numbers in aggregate, but they do provide a “year in review” thing per user and most of the ones I see online are in the three digit range. Even assuming a bunch of people aren’t using these at all, we’re looking one to two orders of magnitude larger than the Steam Deck, which checks out with what we know about the total numbers sold for each device.
Which is to say, the Deck is probably as popular as, say, a Sega Game Gear or a Sega Saturn but nowhere near any of the modern consoles yet.
Invalid perspective, I’m afraid.
That’s over 8 years of Switch owners. Use the same growth curve on the SteamDeck forecasting out 7 years from now to make your assessment more accurate.
Some further perspectives:
@[email protected] is spot on. This data is about potential and growth, not the past.
I think the difference here is that the market for the the Switch is known but the market that Valve created for Handheld PC Gaming isn’t and it’s proving be far larger than expected. It’s completely possible that the market for PC Gaming handhelds is just as big as for the Switch.
There is also lot of unexplored territory for Valve with the Steam Deck including games written specifically for Linux, docks that would let you use more powerful hardware when you want to play on a big screen, and crazily enough docks for using the Deck as an actual computer. (There’s already docks that turn your smartphone into a laptop, no reason that can’t be done with a Deck).
Nintendo created something kind of new with the Switch but it only works with the Nintendo ecosystem. Valve took their idea and is making it work in the PC ecosystem which is ultimately much larger.
You know what, I’ll take a Sega saturn equivalent. We’re at least still talking about the Saturn today.
Hey, I had a Sega Saturn. Loved my Sega Saturn. Like it more than my Steam Deck, if I’m being honest, but I do like my Deck and I do have one.
I’m just saying, when we’re talking numbers in the millions it’s easy to lose perspective.
Its the year of the
linux desktopsteam deck!It really good for people who don’t have, or want, a gaming pc. It gives them the small footprint of a handheld, without being locked to a console platform.
It’s such a great way to play CloneHero, ReTHAWed, and emulators in the livingroom. The Switch really nailed the portable to docked mindset, but steam deck brought the real capabilities
Please forgive the naive (stupid) question. Does the steam deck allow emulator to play games that don’t normally run on emulators? I’ve been trying to play Blitz The League 2 for soooo long
Not a stupid question at all :) the steam deck can emulate games a mid-spec modern gaming computer can handle, I’ve had good performance with up to PS2 titles, but I have never tried PS3 or Xbox 360.
I think Emudeck includes RPCS3, a PS3 emulator. It could be worth trying, for sure, but I’d expect it to stutter a bit :)
if it doesn’t run in RPCS3 on a computer the steam deck won’t be any different, it’s essentially just a gaming PC that boots into big picture mode after all :)
The steam deck can run RPCS3 I played a good amount of Demon’s Souls that way
Thank you for the detailed explanation! My search continues
I don’t like how that article doesn’t have a source, but I found this article with a source from Valve.
I’m looking forward to the Legion Go S because at least that’s a lot more likely to be sold officially in my country than the Steam Deck will. Also I think that more choice for officially supported Steam OS devices is on a whole good for consumers.
My apartment is to small to have a desk with a PC so I just use my Steam Deck to game now :)
Not to undercut it, but the steam deck shows triple the actual game time for some of my games, as it probably counted the time the device was asleep with a game running, due to some glitch.
This should fix itself once it reconnects to the internet.
My time went from >100h after closing it back to a sane number.
So, it usually does. But I went to check again. It had me for 63 hours of Baldur’s Gate 3 which I remembered was very off. I launched the game to check the in-game count : 19 hours. I exited the game, and lo and behold, Steam now says 16.8 hours.
I give it a B+ for effort.
Yeah if I remember right I needed to launch it once after this was so inflated and then it went back after syncing.
I mean it’s okay as long as a sane number gets out.
It stayed at that high number for months though, despite periodically launching the game.
Maybe a later fix that corrected it.
Fuck I really gotta just pony up and get one don’t I 😂
If you dont care about high settings at high resolutions in AAA games, then its absolutely the best gaming option out there.
I do say people should be willing to tinker with the software if they want to get some more obscure, abandoned or emulated titles working though, thats the only caveat.
I love mine. It’s great in handheld mode with Moonbeam/Sunshine streaming from my gaming desktop, and it shines in docked mode.
And it’s a very capable Linux desktop too if you want to go that route.
If streaming in home is all you do, I find lighter/cheaper android handhelds are a better option.
The refurbished ones are really cheap during the sales.
Buy a 64gb one, you can upgrade the storage pretty easily
I’d advocate for getting one. Last year 70% of my gaming was on the deck, it really has shifted my attitude towards gaming.
That really does sound interesting
Yes
What expectations? Valve has flat out said its not happening yet because the hardware isn’t there yet.
Have they said that recently? The only definitive comment I remember from them was something along the lines “definitely not in the next 2-3 years” around launch, which was 3 years ago.
Not saying that means I “expect” it’s happening, just curious if you know of anything more recent that says its not happening.
When AMD was talking about RDNA4 one or two months ago, there were rumors that it would be for the new Steam Deck, and Valve claimed that it wasn’t, and that it was still a long way out.
As of October 2024, this would suggest we hadn’t yet had that “generational leap” at the time of writing.
(Source https://www.eurogamer.net/steam-deck-wont-have-yearly-refreshes-because-its-not-really-fair-to-your-customers-says-valve)
If this is tracked just by game playtime, then this is underselling it too. Sunshine/Moonlight alone would probably add a substantial amount of time to this count.
I never play my steamdeck hand held. But boy do I rip through my backlog with it hooked up to the TV.
That’s where I’m having trouble justifying it. I don’t really care for or do any handheld gaming, and if I was gonna leave it docked, why not just use my PC? If I want it on my TV I still have a Steam Link too. Glad to see it’s being shown as a viable platform, I just haven’t found a use case for it in my world.
That’s a good assessment. I originally got it because I was moving overseas and traveling a lot. It is fun on a plane and when I stay up at my parents for Christmas for a few days etc. considered it for a mobile music studio, but a laptop is superior. In your case I wouldn’t get it though.
I play in bed every night (with my steam deck)
Its one of the joys of the device, isn’t it? I know my friend uses hers as a permanently docked desktop device, basically a cheap way for her to get into desktop PC gaming. I use mine as a handheld device but I have a second one that I got my family to use as a gaming device in the living room. 3 totally different use cases supported delightfully by 1 device.
This can’t be true, because I’m not using steam anymore/s
why
Stopped playing games and if I want to play some games I fire up my PS5.
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