I don’t play FO4 anymore either. I will say I appreciate the stories, but their attempts to make games you can live in just don’t measure up anymore. Not when you have games like no man’s land and satisfactory. We know just how comfy a game can be.
Which version is that? The original Skyrim (aka oldrim) isn’t even purchasable on steam and hidden unless you bought it back then. But some people still play that because some old mods only support oldrim.
Why? It has one of the biggest modding communities in gaming, so there’s a lot for people to like about it still, assuming they’re fine with modding it.
because it’s slop. there are so many more games to play that have better writing, direction, characters, environments, exploration, combat, RPG elements, and overall design.
I don’t get Bethesda fans insisting on modding bland ass games. you can play a game that’s better to begin with.
I didn’t say it’s wrong, I said it’s sad. also star field is objectively the sloppiest slop game even coming from the slop masters that are bethesda game studios. literally nothing about the game is remarkable.
while skyrim had a mediocre story handled badly and annoying af characters, it was at least carried by great environmental design and some memorable side quests, which is to say it greatly rewarded exploration.
the one real strength of their open worlds, and they threw that in the garbage to instead add fishbowls of minimally randomized and endlessly repeated slop separated by untold amounts of loading screens, tedious inventory management, and empty space where you do nothing but run in one direction. because there isn’t even anything you can encounter between points of interests so you don’t even explore.
yes, it is slop. and it is sad that people are playing that game for the sake of justifying their ovehyped purchase rather than playing better games which is almost any other game you have heard of.
Shroud (and folks like me) with 200+ hours found the fun. The quest design in starfield has extreme lows, but it has some extreme highs that are probably helped if you watched the shows and films the quests are referencing. The faction questlines are stellar the first time through.
If you just hate all quests and only care about gameplay outside of that, you should probably admit that to yourself instead of flinging buzzwords and design guesses around. Bethesda open worlds have always felt surprisingly dead, closest they’ve got is morrowind and oblivion with almost every npc having a domicile and a daily routine. Their open worlds have been panned as being empty, too quest-locked, too small (or artificially large), poorly balanced, and any number of other complaints that they’re trash/slop/unplayable.
We’ve heard this take (new game bad, old game good) for the entirety of video games existing across basically every genre. If you don’t like it, cool. It’s a game where you assign your own goals after a point (or even from the get-go) so ultimately it’s on you to find a satisfying gameplay loop. It’s okay if you can’t, but it says something about you and not the title, especially when you turn into a goblin who can’t stand the fun or joy of others on public spaces
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Tons of people still play Skyrim.
Something tells me that, in 10 years, few if any will still be playing Starfield.
I don’t play FO4 anymore either. I will say I appreciate the stories, but their attempts to make games you can live in just don’t measure up anymore. Not when you have games like no man’s land and satisfactory. We know just how comfy a game can be.
I mean, I do, to see what new mods are out.
Gun modding is an absolute shit show btw. Everyone tries to make their guns use the real or unique calibers and it’s kind of a massive pain.
do people play it now? never hear about it anymore.
I have started a complete new game 2 days ago and have again a lot of fun with Starfield. Can’t wait to see all the new content from the DLC.
I would say that Starfield is the best NASA punk planet exploration RPG Bethesda has ever made
I have a lot of fun with starfield, and enjoy the DLC, but admit it’s the weakest game they’ve made.
I never said it is the best game they ever made, but it is the best NASA punk space RPG they ever made 😁
According to SteamDB: [edit:Starfield has] around 10k every day which is about the same as Hogwarts Legacy, Bloons TD6, and No man’s Sky
Which version is that? The original Skyrim (aka oldrim) isn’t even purchasable on steam and hidden unless you bought it back then. But some people still play that because some old mods only support oldrim.
Special edition is the main one now. It’s holding 30k very steadily since 2020 https://steamdb.info/app/489830/charts/#breakdown
Many of modders also moved to gog version, myself included. Because I can permanently version control on gog unlike stream.
I was talking about Starfield (i get how my comment isn’t precise in that way now, i’ll add an edit… oops)
that’s sad
Why? It has one of the biggest modding communities in gaming, so there’s a lot for people to like about it still, assuming they’re fine with modding it.
because it’s slop. there are so many more games to play that have better writing, direction, characters, environments, exploration, combat, RPG elements, and overall design.
I don’t get Bethesda fans insisting on modding bland ass games. you can play a game that’s better to begin with.
A blank canvas is easier to add to
lol fair
the game is slop, everybody else playing it is wrong!
I didn’t say it’s wrong, I said it’s sad. also star field is objectively the sloppiest slop game even coming from the slop masters that are bethesda game studios. literally nothing about the game is remarkable.
while skyrim had a mediocre story handled badly and annoying af characters, it was at least carried by great environmental design and some memorable side quests, which is to say it greatly rewarded exploration.
the one real strength of their open worlds, and they threw that in the garbage to instead add fishbowls of minimally randomized and endlessly repeated slop separated by untold amounts of loading screens, tedious inventory management, and empty space where you do nothing but run in one direction. because there isn’t even anything you can encounter between points of interests so you don’t even explore.
yes, it is slop. and it is sad that people are playing that game for the sake of justifying their ovehyped purchase rather than playing better games which is almost any other game you have heard of.
Shroud (and folks like me) with 200+ hours found the fun. The quest design in starfield has extreme lows, but it has some extreme highs that are probably helped if you watched the shows and films the quests are referencing. The faction questlines are stellar the first time through.
If you just hate all quests and only care about gameplay outside of that, you should probably admit that to yourself instead of flinging buzzwords and design guesses around. Bethesda open worlds have always felt surprisingly dead, closest they’ve got is morrowind and oblivion with almost every npc having a domicile and a daily routine. Their open worlds have been panned as being empty, too quest-locked, too small (or artificially large), poorly balanced, and any number of other complaints that they’re trash/slop/unplayable.
We’ve heard this take (new game bad, old game good) for the entirety of video games existing across basically every genre. If you don’t like it, cool. It’s a game where you assign your own goals after a point (or even from the get-go) so ultimately it’s on you to find a satisfying gameplay loop. It’s okay if you can’t, but it says something about you and not the title, especially when you turn into a goblin who can’t stand the fun or joy of others on public spaces